DUNBARTON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 2004

TOWN OFFICES – 7:00 P.M.

 

The regular monthly meeting of the Dunbarton Zoning Board of Adjustment was held at the above time, date and place with Chairman John Trottier presiding.  The following members were present:

 

                John Trottier, Chairman

                John Herlihy, Vice Chairman

                Alison Vallieres, Secretary

                Gertrude Dulude

                David Nault

                Ron Slocum, Alternate

                John Van, Alternate

                Kenneth Swayze, Admin., Planning and Zoning

 

John Trottier, Chairman, called the meeting to order and verified with the Secretary that the Public Meeting Notice had been posted in three public places throughout the Town and published in the Concord Monitor for one day according to State Law.

 

John Trottier stated that John Van, Alternate, had submitted his resignation from the Board effective the end of the month.  

 

Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes, Tuesday, January 20, 2004:

 

A motion was made, seconded and passed unanimously to approve the previous meeting minutes of Tuesday, January 20, 2004 as written. 

 

CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING AND REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ARTICLE 4, SECTION B. FROM BETTER LIVING SUNROOMS REPRESENTING FOREST AND ANITA MELENDY (K1-09-01) TO ALLOW THEM TO CONSTRUCT A 12’ X 14’ STUDIO SUNROOM ON AN EXISTING DECK WITH UPGRADES AT THEIR PROPERTY CLOSER THAN THE REQUIRED 50 FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY AND A NEW PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN EQUITABLE WAIVER TO ALLOW THE EXISTING DECK WHICH IS 12’ X 14’ WITH EXTENSIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY ON 9 KAREN ROAD IN THE LOW DENSITY DISTRICT IN DUNBARTON, NH

 

                A Representive of Better Living, Ryan Nolette,  and Forest Melendy appeared before the Board.  There was not a copy of the certified plot plan available to the Board and the applicants did not bring copies with them.  Kenneth Swayze, Building Department, produced a copy which the Building Department had in their records. (attached) 

 

                The Board discussed whether the plot plan would be acceptable because it was not stamped by a Registered Surveyor, it was stamped by a Professional Licensed Engineer.  After discussion, the Board reached a consensus that the Plot Plan as presented would be accepted by the Board. 

 

                Mr. Nolette of Better Living and Mr. Melendy presented an ad book showing what the proposed sunroom would look like.

 

                John Trottier, Chairman, stated that the Board would first address the requirements for the Equitable Waiver before acting on the request for the Variance.  He read the statute for the granting of the Equitable Waiver.    Requirements for the Equitable Waiver were addressed by the applicants as follows:

 

I.                     When a lot or other division of land, or structure thereupon, is discovered to be in violation of a physical layout or dimensional requirement imposed by a zoning ordinance enacted pursuant to RSA 674:16, the zoning board of adjustment shall, upon application by and with the burden of proof on the property owner, grant an equitable waiver from the requirement, if and only if the board makes all of the following findings:

 

a. That the violation was not noticed or discovered by any owner, former owner, owner’s agent or representative, or municipal official, until after a structure in violation had been substantially completed, or until after a lot or other division of land in violation had been subdivided by conveyance to a bona fide purchaser for value;

 

Answer:  The violation was only discovered once transferred.   Purchased in September 2003. 

 

b.   That the violation was not an outcome of ignorance of the law or ordinance, failure to inquire,   obfuscation, misrepresentation, or bad faith on the part of any owner, owner’s agent or representative, but was instead caused by either a good faith error I measurement or calculation made by an owner or owner’s agent, or by an error in ordinance interpretation or applicability made by a municipal official in the process of issuing a permit over which that official had authority;

 

Answer:  There is no permit on record.  Melendy is the new owner. 

 

c.  That the physical or dimensional violation does not constitute a public or private nuisance, nor diminish the value of other property in the area, nor interfere with or adversely affect any present or permissible future uses of any such property; and

 

Answer:  The existing conditions are within the existing setbacks.

 

d.       That due to the degree of past construction or investment made in ignorance of the facts constituting the violation, the cost of correction so far outweighs any public benefit to be gained, that it would be inequitable to require the violation to be corrected. 

 

Answer:  Mr. Melendy purchased in good faith with the existing deck.  The removal would diminish the value of the home. 

 

Abutters were read as follows and noted that all were notified by certified mail:

 

Lori Desmarais – Not Present

Peter Pacik – Present.  Stated they have living there for seven years and the deck has been there since we have lived there. 

 

Mary Ann Robinson – Not Present

Greta Coderre – Not Present

Rex/Barbara LaRhette – Not Present

Amy St. Amand – Not Present

David/Denise Kremidas – Present.  Stated he had been there for 21 years and find it very hard that you are putting Mr. Melendy through this.  Two selectmen have lived in that house.

 

Beryl Leggett – Not Present

Robert Masys – Professional Engineer who did the Plot Plan. 

 

At this point in the meeting, the Board addressed the request for a Variance.   Criteria for the granting of a Variance were addressed by the applicant and his representative as follows: 

 

a.        No diminution in values of surrounding properties would be suffered;

 

Answer:  Absolutely not.  Actually would improve the house and will not infringe on the setbacks any more than it is presently. 

 

b. Granting the variance would be of benefit to the public interest;

 

Answer:  Would not be a negative impact.  The only person it will affect is the homeowner himself. 

 

c.   Denial of the variance would result in unnecessary hardship to the owner seeking it;

 

Answer:  We are looking to increase the amount of space and it is just going to improve the home.  Homeowners have inherent rights.

 

d.    Granting the variance would do substantial justice; and

 

                Answer:  Would do substantial justice because it would not affect anyone else but the homeowner.

 

e.        The use would not be contrary to the spirit of the Ordinance.

 

Answer:  The Ordinance is set up for a guide.  This will not have any affect on others. 

 

Abutters were read as follows and noted all had been notified by certified mail:

 

Lori Desmarias – Not Present

Peter Pacik – Present.  Stated the desk is within the boundaries of the house.  I think it would enhance the Melendy property and would not have any negative impact on the community and would enhance the neighborhood.

 

Mary Ann Robinson – Not Present

Greta Coderre – Not Present

Rex/Barbara LaRhette – Not Present

Amy St. Amand – Not Present

David/Denise Kremidas – Present.  Stated he believed the same as Mr. Pacik that it would be a benefit for Mr. Melendy and his wife and have no problem with him building it.

 

Discussion: 

 

John Trottier, Chairman, stated the following members would be voting on the Melendy Request this evening:

 

                John Trottier

                Gertrude Dulude

                Alison Vallieres

                John Herlihy

                David Nault

 

Ron Slocum stated the Board has heard several things from the Gorham Pond Area.  Supposedly, everything is built as a two or three season living.  Is this right? 

 

Mr. Melendy stated that his home is a year round home and there are many other that are year round homes. 

 

Kenneth Swayze stated that some lots have notes in the file from DES that a particular home is only a nine month home, etc.  Mr. Melendy’s does not have this note in the file.  It is a year-round home.  In addition Mr. Melendy’s home is not directly on the beach.  (Notes usually are referring to homes directly on the beach.)

 

John Herlihy stated they were just putting a structure on top of the existing deck.   It isn’t going to be heated or cooled.  The only thing I would like to see is that it never be used as a bedroom and that it never be heated nor cooled and no water every be brought to the porch. 

 

John Trottier stated he had no problem with the Equitable Waiver but would like to see an actual survey of the property. 

 

MOTION:

 

John Herlihy made a motion that the Dunbarton Zoning Board of Adjustment grant the request for an Equitable Waiver Better Living Sunrooms representing Forest and Anita Melendy (K1-09-01) to allow the existing deck which is 12’ x 17’ on their property on 9 Karen Road in the Low Density District in Dunbarton.  The motion was seconded by John Trottier.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

MOTION:

 

John Herlihy made a motion that the Dunbarton Zoning Board of Adjustment grant the request for a Variance to Article 4, Section B. from Better Living Sunrooms representing Forest and Anita Melendy (K1-09-01) to allow them to construct a 12’ x 17’ sunroom on an existing deck with upgrades at their property on 9 Karen Road in the Low Density District in Dunbarton, NH with the following conditions: 

 

1.       No closer than 34.5’ to the property line on the south side.

2.       No closer than 49.5’ to the property line on the north side.

3.       The additon is not to be used for a bedroom.

4.       No heating elements nor cooling to be installed.

5.       No plumbing be allowed within the porch.

 

David Nault seconded the motion.  The motion passed unanimously.

 

PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ARTICLE 4, SECTION B. FROM MICHAEL AND KATHY LEIGHTON TO ALLOW THEM TO TAKE DOWN THE EXISTING GARAGE AND REBUILD WITH A SECOND FLOOR TO ALLOW FOR A MASTER SUITE CLOSER THAN THE REQUIRED 50 FEET FROM THE BOUNDARY AT THEIR PROPERTY ON 23 TWIST HILL ROAD IN THE LOW DENSITY DISTRICT IN DUNBARTON, NH

 

                Jacques Belanger, Surveyor, and the applicant, Kathy Leighton appeared before the Board with a Certified Plot Plan (attached) showing the proposed replacement garage.  Jacques Belanger stated that the existing garage was having structural problems because the frost wall was not stable.  The existing garage is presently 24’ from the lot line.  The proposed replacement garage will be 20 feet from the property line.  The ridge line of the new garage will be in the opposite direction of the house.   Kathy Leighton presented a plan showing the proposed layout of the upstairs of the new garage.  (attached)

 

John Trottier noted they would be adding a bathroom. 

 

Jacques Belanger stated they would be losing a bedroom upstairs in the existing home, thus the home would still be a three bedroom home.   The home has a three bedroom septic system presently. 

 

The applicant addressed the criteria for the granting of a Variance as follows:

 

a.        No diminution in values of surrounding properties would be suffered;

 

Answer:  The proposed addition is for residential use.  The existing garage is 24’ from the lot line abutting a vacant lot.  The development of this lot is 300 ‘ back from the street line per subdivision agreement, putting any development well behind the proposed addition.

 

b.       Granting the variance would be of benefit to the public interest;

 

Answer:  Any improvement to a home, increases its value as well as the value of abutting properties.

 

c.        Denial of the variance would result in unnecessary hardship to the owner seeking it.

 

Answer:  The reason for the addition is to increase the living and storage space in the home.  The current garage has a floor that is buckling and is not structurally sound enough for the upstairs addition of a master bedroom.  The additional 10’ to the west will allow for storage. 

 

d.       Granting the variance would do substantial justice; and

 

Answer:  The proposed work is to first correct a problem with the original construction and secondly, let the owners increase their living space.  There will not be an additional bedroom.  The bedroom gained will be accessed through an existing bedroom which will become a sitting-office area. 

 

e.        The use would not be contrary to the spirit of the ordinance.

 

Answer:  This lot is zoned low density residential.  The use applied for is residential use only and will be less than 4’ closer to the lot line than what it currently is. 

 

Abutters were read as follows and noted that all had been notified by certified mail:

 

David/Beth Sedita – Present.  Mr. Sedita looked at the plan and noted that it was going to be closer to his lot than anyone else.  Asked how much closer?  K. Leighton explained that the proposed new garage would be only 4’ closer than the existing garage.  After the explanation, Mr. Sedita stated he did not have a problem with the request. 

 

Rudolph/Elizabeth Vallauri – Not Present

Ronald/Barbara Wanner – Not Present

William/Jeanne Link – Not Present

Gloria Atencid – Not Present

Catherine Bolieiro – Not Present

Leslie/Debra Richardson – Not Present

Jacob Poole – Not Present

J. E. Belanger Land Surveying – Present.  Representing the applicants. 

 

Other Members of the Public:

 

John Trottier, Chairman, stated the following would be voting members on the Leighton Request:

 

                John Trottier

                Alison Vallieres

                Gertrude Dulude

                David Nault

                John Van

 

A question was asked from the audience as to how much the garage would be infringing on the lot line.  The Board stated that the proposed garage would be infringing on the present footprint by 10 feet.  This is why they have to come to the Board for a Variance for setback.

 

John Trottier stated they were only encroaching 4’ into what already exists there. 

 

David Nault stated this is going to be on the back side of the house. 

 

John Herlihy asked where the present septic system is located.  J. Belanger, Surveyor, pointed it out on the map. 

 

John Herlihy asked about the status of the Cyrus Wheeler Easement as noted on the plan.  J. Belanger stated he had been unable to locate where the easement is on the property.  

 

MOTION:

 

David Nault made a motion that the Dunbarton Zoning Board of Adjustment grant the request for a Variance to Article 4, Section B. from Michael and Kathy Leighton to allow them to take down the existing garage and rebuild with a second floor to allow for a master suite closer than the required setback of 50 feet from the boundary at their property on 23 Twist Hill Road in the Low Density District in Dunbarton, NH subject to the following conditions:

 

1.       That the distance on the northwest rear  cannot be any closer than 20 feet from the lot line

2.       That the front northeast of the building be no closer than 24 feet from the lot line

3.       That the home continue to be a three bedroom home and no more bedrooms be added to the existing home. 

 

John Van seconded the motion.  The motion passed unanimously. 

 

PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO ARTICLE 6, SECTION C(3) AND SPECIAL EXCEPTION TO ARTICLE 4. TO ALLOW WATCH HILL DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC, REPREENTING COUNTRYSIDE GOLF CLUB, INC. (B3-2-1, B4-1-11, A4-1-5, AND A3-1-4) TO ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP A PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE ABOVE-DESCRIBED LOTS WITH A VARIANCE TO PERMIT A DENSITY OF 104 DWELLING UNITS CONSISTING OF NINE (9) 4-UNIT BUILDINGS AND SIXTY-EIGHT (68) SINGLE FAMILY UNITS, WHERE THE ORDINACNE WOULD PERMIT A MAXIMUM OF NINETY-FIVE (95) DWLLING UNITS IN ALL 4-UNIT BUILDINGS IF THE ENTIRETY OF THE ACREAGE ON THE LOTS (EXCEPTING SURFACE WATER AND SLOPES IN EXCESS OF 20%) WERE DEVOTED TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.  HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED TO DEVELOP A PRD WITHOUT LOT LINES.  (THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON STARK HIGHWAY SOUTH, ROUTE 13 AND COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE IN THE LOW DENSITY DISTRICT IN DUNBARTON, NH)

 

                IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE SIZE AND DEGREE OF THE DENSITY VARIANCE, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE ACREAGE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AFTER SUBTRACTION OF THAT ACREAGE DEVOTED TO GOLF COURSE USE AND OTHER PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES FOR THE LOTS.  THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGTES THAT FURTHER ZBA APPROVALS ARE REQUIRED FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OR MODIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL USES ON THE LOTS, BUT IS NOT SEEKING THOSE APPROVALS AT THIS TIME. 

 

 

Attorney Richard Uchida appeared before the Board on behalf of his clients, Watch Tower Development Group, LLC.  Representing Countryside Golf Club.  He stated that because there was an abutter missing from the notification process at the last meeting, they were going to start again and the record would be clean. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated they were planning a mix of four units and single family dwellings on the property.  There is a total of 270 acres of which not all is buildable.  There is a large area of water which needs to be subtracted from the developable land.  There are no steep slopes greater than 20% to subtract.  The total acreage is 270 acres and after subtracting the pond area, there is 252 acres remaining.  He stated they were seeking to develop 104 dwelling units.  They were proposing nine (9) 4 units and 68 single family units for a total of 104 units.  He stated that tonight they would be focusing on the PRD.  At least we want to get into the clustering before we go home.  We are seeking direction from the ZBA. 

 

The Board had noted that this would require 439 acres of developable land area to do this. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated that the ZBA had asked for a layout of the project showing what could be put on the land in a standard grid subdivision.  At this point in the public hearing, a grid was shown that took the entire parcel of 270 acres and cut it into 22 eleven acre lots with a 4-unit multi-family dwelling on each 11 acre parcel for a total of 88 units.  Attorney Uchida stated that this is not the type of development they would like to propose.  In addition, the golf course would be gone.  Also, the development would not be restricted to Senior Housing (over 55 years of age).  This type of grid subdivision is allowed within the present Zoning Ordinance without seeking Zoning Board of Adjustment approval.  It would be a standard subdivision. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated that this would be a possibility based on financial.  He noted the impact on the vistas and along Meadow Lane.  No one has view easements.  Under this proposal, we could indeed create 88 residential buildings but this is a doable option.  

 

Attorney Uchida stated that under the first proposal for the PRD, we have done some work to try to preserve the views, the golf course and tried to address the concerns of the neighbors.   Stated they would need a Special Exception to create the Clubhouse.  If we don’t get your approval on the clustering and the density, we would probably be pursuing the 22 units, etc.   We understand  we need Special Exceptions for the commercial uses but don’t want to cloud the issue at this time.  That is why we are not asking for them at this time. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated the ZBA had asked him about subtracting the golf course from the calculations.  He presented a flyer showing calculations for the Density both in 4-units and as single family units.  (attached)  He stated the golf course would be treated as Open Space Land.  David Nault – Asked if they had included the “white” areas  in the calculation of developable land. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated it was not open water and therefore according to the ordinance does not qualify as undevelopable land.   He also stated that the golf course woulc qualify as open space because it would be open to the public.  He cited a RSA which gives a definition of Golf Course as it relates to Open Space Land and Discretionary Easements.  (attached) 

 

Rodney Doucet asked if the road system presented was to be a Town Road System. 

 

Applicants noted that as previously presented as a cluster development, it would be a private road system.  If the four unit 22 lots complex were used, it would be a Town Road System and built to Town Standards, etc. ( It was noted that the road area had been deducted from the formula for determining lots, etc.)  In addition, the 22 lot 4-units would not be a restricted development to 80% seniors, etc. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated that with regard to the cluster development,  the over 55 years of age was enforceable as long as they subscribe to the Federal numbers and you don’t “cheat” and let people in under 55 over the 20% figure.  Would require an annual census to determine figures, etc.   We would add these into the restrictions and covenants.  Have not found a case where a person younger could stay. 

 

John Trottier stated that personally, he had no problem with the cluster just the density. 

 

John Herlihy also stated he did not have a problem with the cluster but he was having a problem with the density.

 

David Nault asked if there was any way of showing what the frontage and amount of acreages were per unit.  How far apart are the buildings?  What are the setbacks going to be? 

 

John Trottier asked if they had determined the status of the air strip and how it related to the proposed development.

 

Don Lane read a statement from the Division of Aeronautics (DOT) regarding the airstrip,  (non-commercial) etc. (attached).  He stated there is an “inverted cone” of air space which is protected above the air strip.  He stated the proposed cluster development is far enough away from this air space so it is not a problem. 

 

John Van asked about the distance of the cluster housing from the air strip and noted there is a 125 feet protected area each side of the centerline of the air strip.  The applicants noted they were far enough away to not be a problem. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated that under less dense development, they would not be able to afford to keep all of the factors of the project as it has been presented. 

 

Don Lane stated they would like to get a variety of housing.  Would be a more dynamic community.  If we were not able to do this, we would have to go with the four units.  This is not what we want to do though.  We have to come to an agreement.  What about the amenities?  If you allow a large commercial club house, it would allow for more dynamics, etc. 

 

Abutters were read as follows and noted all had been notified by certified mail:

 

Kenneth/Jennifer Proulx – Not Present

David Maceacran – Not Present

Robert Thomas – Not Present

Henry/Joan Burnham – Present.  Stated they would be terribly impacted by the whole situation to the right.  There would be people coming over with snowmobiles, etc.  I just don’t see that density in that area. This is a little overwhelming.  The cluster could be pushed over on the left hand side of the property. (south) That would be a better place for some of the development.  People would be trespassing onto our property.  They are 100 feet away from the property line.  Where are they going to end up? On our land. 

 

Curtis Whittaker – Present.  Stated he likes things the way they are.  Would rather have them change for the better than the worse.  The property is great.  If seniors are the kind of neighbors you are talking about, maybe the trespassing wouldn’t be.  It would seem to be they are cutting back from 104 units to 88 units.    Stated that his biggest worry is that fact about the road.  I wish we could figure out something so that we don’t get bracketed by asphalt. 

 

Rene/Ruth Norbert – Present.  You would be letting them put in cluster over in by the wetland areas.  Questions about the golf course and whether it will be there.    Would just as soon see the four units instead of the cluster, etc.  Then I would just sell my house and leave. 

 

Caron Revocable Trust – Attorney Peter Imse, representing a group of abutters:  Kevin McCarthy, Jeff Kantor,  Norman Caron, etc.  Stating he had understood that the meeting this evening would be starting over.  He understood the Board would probably not be making a decision this evening.  Had some other witnesses to appear but decided not at this meeting because of this. 

 

1.        Questions relating to general issues of review of the plans.  Wanted to express concerns from his clients’ perspective.  There has been insufficient plans for abutters to review.  There is nothing by the way of detailed plans for the development.  No way to prepare for this hearing.   How are the buildings going to be constructed, etc.?  There is nothing to review. 

 

John Trottier stated that Attorney Uchida will be taking notes and will prepare additional plans to review.  Will all be better off if these plans are presented. 

 

2.        Who is going to review the plan for the Town?  Would encourage you to consider hiring a professional.   This plan cries out for the Board to hire an outside consultant to review the plans.  The Statutes says you can also charge the applicant. 

 

3.        The Town already has an existing arrangement with an engineer to review.  What about a joint meeting with the Planning Board. 

 

4.        Are these calculations correct?  This might be the kind of situation that you would want to evaluate.  Is there going to be a detriment to previous values of property?  Someone can look at those materials.  There could be fires, chemicals, relating to the golf course.    What are the current standards for golf courses? 

 

5.        There are traffic issues and surface water issues.   The Town should be able to get some help on this application from professionals.  You should look at these issues. 

               

6.        Moving from that, we don’t have anything to react to.  I represent these folks who are against this.  Most of these are good ideas used in the proper ways.  They are taking a good idea and pursuing it too far.  The applicant has recognized the commercial use has to be recognized.   A PRD is a residential use, and commercial uses don’t belong there.  Now we want to talk about the club house and the restaurant.   You really ought to look at the whole thing together.  Attorney Uchida was getting close.  I want to see a picture.  They are proposing 2/3 single family homes and 1/3 multi-family.

 

7.        With single family housing you would be getting a number just under 50.  Your ordinance says for a PRD, you can’t put anything more than you would otherwise.  This is probably what I would have done.  Would it meeting approval?  22 – 4 units buildings?  50 units is the number we are talking about.  Putting some on the south side of the property is a option.  These people are living in the Low Density District and suddenly they are living in the middle of a large development.  This is very inconsistent.  Green space idea is a good idea.  Is the green space a positive for the community?  Is it hidden in back?  They say the golf course will not be in the 22 units 4-unit development.

 

8.        The applicants have spent a lot of time talking about Village Clusters and New England character.   The Planning Board is currently proposing a Zoning Change regarding multi-family housing.  This will apply.  This project has direct access on Route 13.  The new proposed ordinance states you must provide for a 100 foot “no-build, no-cut” buffer zone and set-back at side and rear-yard property lines and provide for a minimum 150 foot set-back at the front and/or access portion of the project per Planning Board Site Plan Review.   This proposed ordinance will be applied to this project because of the timing of the application. 

 

Hammond Revocable Trust – Not Present.

Arvid Rain – Not Present.

J&J Trust – Not Present

Charles Graybill – Not Present

Julia/Arthur Thomas – Not Present

 

Benjamin/Mary Horne – Present.  Stated they have concerns about the airport.  Having houses so close to the air strip.  There will be dangerous equipment close to the homes.  There will be a number of children.  Their estimates of numbers of children are extremely low from what my thoughts were.  Last time, they were saying they were going to use Country Club Drive for the initial steps of development.  How is that going to come into play?  What is the Board flavor regards to Cluster development? 

 

Joseph/Nichole French – Present.  Mr. French has no comments at this time.

 

Jeffrey/Evelyn Kantor – Present.  Stated the applicants are saying they want to keep the southern corridor as open land for wildlife.  Stated they have got the wrong section.  The area where the cluster development will occur is where the wildlife presently is.  It will be private property unless you open it up and say it is for Town uses.  One of the biggest things is, I was at the Dunbarton Master Plan Visioning Session and they received a 47% response rate to the questionnaire.  85% of the Town did not want multi-family housing.  91% did not want apartment buildings with 4+ units.  57% were against cluster developments.  People want to keep Dunbarton a small town.

 

Walter/Evelyn Smith – Not Present.

Story Heirs, C/O George Doucet – Not Present.

Story Heirs, C/O Rodney Doucet – Presnt.  Stated he just had to say what others are saying, the density is overwhelming.  The high density district for years has been the Village District.  Can the water and soil handle such density.  What about fertilizers for the golf course?  Water quality is an issue.  Also is there enough water for these homes?  I think it would be unwise.  Would need a large sum of money set aside if 1/3 of the project fell apart, etc.  Would not be private roads if it fell through.  Need more thought about this development. 

 

                Office of Selectmen, Town of Goffstown – Not Present.

                Theresa Naser – Not Present.

                Thomas/Melissa Maille – Not Present

                Keith/Jennifer Lavoie – Not Present.

                Glenn Doten/Linn Kurkjean – Not Present. 

Phil/Robin Nelson – Not Present

Kevin/Marie McCarthy – Present. Represented by Attorney Peter Imse

George/Carolyn Cushman – Not Present. 

 

Other Members of the Public:

 

Michael Poirier stated he would doubt that 88 units would work.  Even though 88 units is much more acceptable than 104, he still didn’t believe it would work.  It would become a Town Road.  You would have to provide parking spaces for each unit, etc.  Cost will be double.

 

John Mazalewski – Stated that he was an abutter who had not been notified.  (It was established that Mr. Mazalewski was not an abutter.)  He stated that he lives on 12 Town Farm Lane.  When they originally showed us this picture, the stated they will use the existing road for the first two or three years.  There will be a whole cluster of homes there.  This is the prime land where all the animals are living.  There will be 350 cars.  Would ruin the wildlife.  Don’t know how wide this road would be.  Would be a private road.  I look to get how onto Route 13 every morning.  This is a very dangerous section.  The first and second hld will be taken out.  Why don’t they put the houses around the golf course.  This other plan is being forced on us. 

 

Don DalPra – Asked if the four units would going to be apartments or condos. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated they would be condos. 

 

Curtis Whittaker – Stated that a couple of years ago, he bought property in Florida.  By having a corporate area for meeting, it upgraded the golf course.  Abutting properties have quadrupled in value.  A development done right, it can enhance the value of homes nearby.  These fellow have thought about preserving some of the views.  If we let it go to Chuck Irwin’s creditors, they won’t care.  We should try to work with these people a little bit and maybe we can come up with a density we can live with. 

 

Attorney Uchida – In response the comments, he would be willing to ask for a Joint Meeting of the Planning Board and the Zoning Board .  This might help bring some thoughts to the Board and assist them.  He would be happy to make this request.  He stated it was the Zoning Board’s responsibility to respond and act upon the request for the Variance and Special Exception.

 

John Trottier stated he did not see the need for a Joint Meeting of the two Boards at this time. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated maybe they can do this development without the commercial uses.  We are not trying to creep in.  There were comments made about the open space.  We are just going to give people out of the immediate area around the golf course access to the property.  We will open it to cross-country skiing.  That is our proposal.  We will have a traffic engineer come in and talk with you about traffic and safey issues and convince you in detail that the entrance can be safe, etc.  We can deal with protection of the road.  Please don’t let that be an issue.  We have heard your issues with regard to densities.  You need plans with information for the public file for review.  This is a brief answer to some of the questions we have heard this evening.

 

David Nault – Asked if the property was currently in Current Use.  What about a copy of the easement showing the egress and ingress?  The Board will need this.   Stated he did like the idea of the wildlife corridor as he was a hunter, etc.  I would hope that you would still provide access to the public if you move houses to the southern area. 

 

Attorney Uchida stated the property is not in Current Use.  

 

The Board agreed that need a copy of all plans so they have a record of the plans and how they get to a certain stage.    In addition, the abutters need to be able to see the plans.

 

John Herlihy asked that all abutters be given all the information we get. 

 

Ron Slocum asked how they are going to satisfy the public access requirement.  Is it your view that the golf course will provide public access.  Are we going to continue access to the course?

 

Attorney Uchida stated the golf course will be set up under the homeowners association.  They will own the golf course and it will be a non-profit entity. 

 

Attorney Uchida will address the following issues:

 

1.        Density Issue

2.        Detail Plans

 

MOTION:

 

John Herlihy made a motion that the Dunbarton Zoning Board of Adjustment continue the Public Hearing until March 2004 for the Request for a Variance to Article 6, Section C(3) and Special Exception to Article 4., to allow Watch Hill Development Group, LLC, representing Countryside Golf Club, Inc. (B3-2-1, B4-1-11, A4-1-5, and A3-1-4) to allow them to develop a Planned Residential Development on the above described lots with a Variance to permit a density of 104 Dwelling Units consisting of nine (9) 4-unit buildings and sixty-eight (68) single family units, where the Ordinance would permit a maximum of ninety-five (95) dwelling units in all 4-unit buildings if the entirety of the acreage on the lots (Excepting surface water and slopes in excess of 20%) were devoted to residential development.   The motion was seconded and passed unanimously.  

 

 

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.

 

                                                                                                                Respectfully submitted,

 

 

                                                                                                                Alison R. Vallieres, Secretary