DUNBARTON BOARD OF SELECTMEN

MINUTES OF MEETING

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2004

TOWN OFFICES – 7:00 P.M.

 

The regular scheduled weekly meeting of the Dunbarton Board of Selectmen was held at the above time, date and place with Chairman J. R. Swindlehurst presiding.  It was noted that the meeting was called to order at 7:01 p.m.  The following were present:

 

                J. R. Swindlehurst, Chairman

                Charles (Chuck) Graybill

                Mert Mann

                Janice VandeBogart, Town Administrator

 

Items for Attention:

 

1.        Janice VandeBogart stated that the sign posting for the election has been taken care of.

 

2.    Granting of extension for Gerald Gelinas/Donald Perkins  Proposed Subdivision. 

 

MOTION:

 

A motion was made by Chuck Graybill that the Dunbarton Board of Selectmen grant the request from the Dunbarton Planning Board for a 90 day extension for the Gerald Gelinas/Donald  Perkins  Proposed Subdivision as requested.  The motion was seconded by Mert Mann.  The motion passed unanimously. 

 

3.        Filling of Clerical Position within the Building Department

 

MOTION:

 

A motion was made by Mert Mann that Line Comeau be brought from part-time to full-time status with the additional responsibilities of the filling of the budgeted clerical position in the Building Department with no change in salary.  The motion was seconded by J. R. Swindlehurst.

 

Discussion: 

 

Chuck Graybill asked if the position had been advertised. 

 

It was noted the position had not been advertised because there was no need because of promoting within. 

 

Mert Mann noted that Line Comeau had been interviewed by  Kenneth Swayze, Building  Department, and this was in accordance with the Personnel Policy of Promoting from within and advertising of the position is not necessary.

 

The motion passed unanimously.  

 

Letters Signed by Selectmen:

 

1.        Letter to Chester Bradeen requesting that he not park his vehicle on the road because of snow plowing, etc.

 

2.        Letter to David/Denise Kremidas stating that the Town would not be responsible for damage from snowplowing to a fence he has put up within the Town right of way. 

 

Fred Mullen, Town Moderator:

 

Fred Mullen appeared before the Board and stated he had attended a State Moderator’s Meeting.

 

1.        He stated that according to State Law, one or more of the Selectmen of the Town must attend the Election Day for all day.  There has to be a Selectmen present from start to finish of the election (8:00 am to 7:00 pm). 

 

2.        Stated that this election will be monitored carefully by lawyers, etc.  All towns must have sufficient voting booths for the public.  The public should not wait more than twenty minutes.  If there is a backup, the Town should provide portable laminated card board  voting booths such as can be obtained at Staples for $7.00 each. 

 

Janice VandeBogart will look into purchasing four of these at Staples.

 

3.        Regarding handicapped parking spaces, the Town can put up orange cones for additional handicapped spaces if necessary.

 

4.        The State is in the process of designing handicapped voting booths.  In addition, there are new handicapped accessible laws.  The Town of Dunbarton is in compliance at this point. 

 

5.        Re political signs – Political signs on private property can only be removed by the owner of the property.  Political signs cannot be placed on Town Property and anyone can remove political signs from Town Property.   Elected officials cannot be holding a political sign according to law. 

 

6.        Suggestions were made at the conference as to having a raffle to get more people to vote.

 

7.        Mert Mann notified Fred Mullen, Moderator, that the Historical Society would be having a Table at the Election Day Voting, etc.   In addition, he noted that the Historical Awareness Committee would be having a table.

 

8.        F. Mullen indicated that according to State Law, voters should not be stopped to buy tickets for raffles, etc.  They need a “clear path” for approaching the voting booths and also for exiting the booths according to State Law.   

 

Gorham Pond Residents:

 

A group of Gorham Pond Residents appeared before the Board consisting of Lou Costa, Tony Migneault, Peter Pacik, Janet Lynn, Mark Desmarais and others. 

 

1.        Tony Migneault stated that they appreciated the Selectmen releasing the Legal Opinion of the Town Attorney with regard to zoning and the covenants for Gorham Pond Residents.  He stated that they felt this was only an opinion, and they would possibly hire legal counsel to argue the opinion.  He stated they did not accept this as written.  He stated they wanted all Boards to accept the Gorham Pond covenants instead of the Town setbacks, etc. 

 

2.        T. Migneault stated they wanted to know who or what Board made the final decision to require Certified Plot Plans.  He stated they could not get any surveyor to come down to Gorham Pond to do a survey and in addition, it was very expensive.  Stated that they could not even replace a set of steps without having a Certified Plot Plan. 

 

Alison Vallieres explained the situation and stated the Zoning Board of Adjustment had problems in the past with inaccurate boundary lines, especially at Gorham Pond.  In the past, mistakes were made, and the Board of Adjustment had granted Variances for inaccurate distances, etc.   They had been challenged and it was determined after the fact that the boundaries as presented by applicants were not correct.  Based on this, the Zoning Board of Adjustment determined that in order to grant Variances, etc., they would have to require a Certified Plot Plan. 

 

There appeared to be a misunderstanding of the requirements for a Certified Plot Plan.  The Zoning Board of Adjustment requires Certified Plot Plans for Variances and Special Exceptions.  In order to get a Building Permit for example the replacement of a roof, etc. (which does not go beyond the existing footprint of the building) does not require a Certified Plot Plan.  In addition, you can get a Building Permit for replacement of steps, etc.  You cannot expand the use or footprint of the existing building without a Variance.  The Variance requires a Certified Plot Plan. 

 

Peter Pacik stated that unfortunately he was not at the last meeting so don’t know some of the things that transpired.  The biggest problem at Gorham Pond is that we are all stuck with small lots that are non-conforming lots and anything we want to do becomes very difficult because we have to comply with the Town Zoning rules.  The lot we have is 90’ x 100’.  It is not true that we want to build large structures like Desmarais.  There is no one who is interested in building a four story house.  We all need a little “wiggle room” to improve our properties.  By the time we were through with the Town, etc., it cost us $6,000 for us to go “through the hoops”.  We met with many individuals.  Ultimately, we did comply with the Certified Plot Plan.  We are just hoping to enlist the support of the Town Fathers to put something on the Town Ballot where it would say that we could come to some kind of agreement supported by the Town Fathers, etc.  If we need to repair a set of stairs, we have to get a Certified Plot Plan.  People are doing things on their own down there without a permit because of this issue.  It has been very time consuming for everyone down there, and we are all pushing for the same thing.   We have been bounced around and we have gone from Board to Board.  We have just been “chasing our tail”. 

 

At this point, Alison Vallieres stated that one way it could be accomplished is through a Petition Article from the residents of Gorham Pond. 

 

At this point, Kenneth Swayze stated that at the last Planning Board meeting which the Gorham Pond Residents had attended, it had been suggested by him that Central New Hampshire Regional Planning Commission be contacted for technical assistance.  He stated at the present time, they were very busy but that he would call them again tomorrow morning for assistance.  He stated that the Planning Board is the only Board that can act on and/or institute changes to the Zoning Ordinance.  He would not suggest they pursue a Petition Article. 

 

The Gorham Pond Residents would rather not pursue a Petition Article.  They would like the Town Fathers to work on this problem and also back up any proposed zoning change for Gorham Pond, etc. 

 

Janet Lynn stated there are other communities similar to Gorham Pond which must have specific ordinances i.e. Locke Lake in Barnstead, Pillsbury Lake in Hillsboro and Emerald Lake.  What about them?  What kind of ordinances do they have? 

 

Mark Desmarais stated that Emerald Lake has no setbacks.  It is grandfathered.  What Dunbarton is doing is like a “taking” by the Town because people had rights before zoning was passed.  Zoning wiped those rights out and that is a government taking. 

 

Other Members of the Gorham Pond Residents Group:

 

A resident indicated that they would propose to go as a non-adversary group.  Whatever we could do easily and without a lawyer.  There is a level of mistrust for the Town Fathers.  We feel we are being shuffled around from one Board to another.  We would like to work with the Planning Board and have Kenneth Swayze help us to have a non-petition article so we can have a little bit of leeway because we can’t move the way it is now. 

 

Another resident stated that property values of non-conforming lots down at Gorham Pond should be reduced because of the fact they are non-conforming, etc.   We could seek relief from property values because of this, etc.  You guys might want to take this into consideration. 

 

A resident stated that the Town should do away with zoning all together.  Zoning is no longer the way to go.  Stated zoning is bigotry, etc.   When zoning is passed, you are consenting to live by majority rule.  The only way is to just vote against zoning.  Get rid of zoning. 

 

Peter Pacik stated that Kenneth Swayze is suggesting an attorney, and it will be an expense that we have to go through.  It is expensive to hire an attorney. 

 

Other Business: 

 

1.        Janice VandeBogart stated that the Town had received a letter from Mr. Gosslen regarding his desire to have Ordway Road paved.  The Selectmen indicated they would need to have neighbors submit letters in writing requesting the paving of the road, etc.

 

NON-PUBLIC SESSION:

 

MOTION:

 

Mert Mann made a motion that the Dunbarton Board of Selectmen go into Non-Public Session in accordance with RSA  91-A:3 in order to discuss legal and welfare issues.   The motion was seconded by Chuck Graybill.  The motion passed unanimously with the following roll vote:

 

                Mann – Yes

                Graybill – Yes

                Swindlehurst – Yes

 

No motions or decisions were made during the non-public session.

 

MOTION:

 

Mert Mann made a motion that the Dunbarton Board of Selectmen adjourn the Non-Public Session in accordance with RSA 91-A:3.  The motion was second by Chuck Graybill.  The motion passed unanimously with the following roll vote:

 

                Mann – Yes

                Graybill – Yes

                Swindlehurst – Yes

 

There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.

 

                                                                                                                                Respectfully submitted,

 

                                                                                                                                Alison R. Vallieres

                                                                                                                                Recording Secretary

 

 

 

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John R. Swindlehurst, III, Chairman

 

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Charles Graybill

 

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Merton Mann

Dunbarton Board of Selectmen